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    UTC - Rental Car: Chevy Aveo   
      Well, I dropped off my Honda Insight today for a transmission replacement. I picked up a rental car -- a Chevy Aveo... Apparently they were out of Plymouth Horizons...

      At any rate, this is mainly to document a problem I noticed. You see, it says to put the car in reverse you have to press down on the "shift lever". Well, if you can see in the picture, the shift lever is not there... I find I can put it into reverse, simply by forcing the stick, which is kind of annoying... But I wanted a documentation in case the auto rental place tries to give me any problems upon returning the car...


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        Anonymous Anonymous   
        SITE BLOWS, DROPS OFF HIS JUNK HONDUH FOR A BAD TRANS AND HAS TO COMMENT ABOUT GM AND CHRYSLER, WHAT A FUCKNUT. MAYBE YOU WOULD BE HAPPIER IN CUBA.THEN CRIES ABOUT UNIONS,BET HE HAS NEVER BEEN IN ONE BUT HAS PLENTY TO SAY ABOUT THEM.


        Blogger Bobby T.   
        Happier in Cuba???

        Cuba is communist, just like unions...


        And I have to be in a union to say anything about them??? How many things do you talk about that you haven't taken part of...

        How many Honda's have you owned??? Obvously you have at least had one, or you wouldn't be qualified to say anything bad about them (by your own argument).

        You must also be a 'Fucknut' yourself, as you would have to be one to be able to call someone else one (again, based off your own argument)...


        FTR: My mom actually bought an aveo, and I feel very sorry for her...


        Anonymous Anonymous   
        Hey Cuban Bobby, site still blows just like your comments. Nope never owned a inferior Hunduh or any import, why domestics are superior. I have worked on MANY of the pieces of scrap though, love taken money from people like you. And yes genrally when people spew crap like you about unions, 99% of the time they have never even been in one. I find jealousy to be the number one reason, no skill is genrally the second. Unions are the people understand that. Their are American unions, European unions, Korean Unions(that build the KIA,Aveo)Toyoda has a union in Japan, but they must be better right? Your mommys car technically is imported from Daewoo of South Korea, another union made car. Again your Hunduh shits a trans and you put down domestics.Guess who has the worst reputation for transmissions, Huduh and Toyoda. Thats fine with me though, I love taking you suckers money,,,LMFAO


        Blogger Bobby T.   
        Once again you call me Cuban, which is a communist socialist country. You must be unintelligent if you do not know this.

        Unions are socialist organizations. They take the power away from the individuals and put it into the hands of a select few who then seemingly try to represent a huge group of people as one, taking all power away from the individuals. Those few make more money than any of the union members, and continue to collect their full pay even when union members are on strike and NOT GETTING PAID! Thats why when unions go on strike (and ceased to get paid) they are still required to pay their dues.

        Unions are socialist organizations, plain and simple. Communism is a socialist system. Its you who would be Cuban.

        At this rate you will be going to a Hillary Clinton website and calling her an ultra conservative.

        Its nice that YOU think my site sucks, but I hate to break it to you, their are 3 individual comments on this post alone that contradict YOUR claim. I only see ONE of you. Again, being a socialist person, I realize you don't think the majority means anything, but this is America, and majority rules, and you've already lost.

        Your claims about bad transmissions are interesting. Apparently by what your saying, nobody who ever owned any car of the ones you listed had to take their vehicle in for warranty repair. Hell, by what you're claiming I guess every individual vehicle of the makes you listed don't ever need to be taken in for repair. I guess you've never needed to take ANY of your vehicles in for repair.

        When it comes to unions however, they create an atmosphere that allows pretty much everybody to be valued the same. I'm a highly skilled employee working in computer programming. I don't need a union to protect my income or my job. If I don't like what is going on around me, I don't need to go on strike, I will go find a new job someplace else.

        Unions go on strike, which is basically means that the employees are not skilled enough to work elsewhere, so they have to give them the better benefits. Worst off, when the union decides to go on strike, those members who choose to disagree with the union (and there are those that do) and continue to work end up loosing their job once the strike is over. The union fires them because they decided to do what they wanted or needed over what the union wanted.

        I'm sorry, but when an organization has the right to tell you that YOU need to stop working & making money for someone else's benefit, I can't respect an organization like that.

        And union memebers end up attacking their own when one of them disagrees with the union. There was a case of this that i found disgusting during the last grocery store strike. A group of union members who disagreed with the union held a press conference saying they disagreed with the union for why they went on strike. While they were talking you could here as clear as day other union members calling them traitors or worse. Why where they traitors? because they had an independent opinion of what was going on. It was absolutely disgusting.

        I'm sorry, you can talk about the benefits of unions all day, but when unions do these type of things, I can't agree that the positives make up for the negatives.


        Anonymous Anonymous   
        Wow you really are clueless when it come to unions. There are roughly 1.5 million teamster members from airline pilots to zookeepers.The UAW has approximately 640,000 active members and over 500,000 retired members in the United States, Canada and Puerto Rico.
        I also see you think you are above middle class blue collar people. See what is nice is more and more people can do your job, not to hard. So wages will start coming down,oh thats right it is already happening. Also if you are a UAW employee, and do go on strike (which doesnt happen very often) you get strike pay.For teamsters if you earn less than $11per hour, you will receive between $75 and $110 per week. For all other members, strike pay is equivalent to four times your monthly dues amount per week. For example, if your monthly dues payment is $70, you will receive $280 per week (70 x 4 = 280). One thing I will agree with you is the top level people in the teamsters make way to much compared to the Uaw top members, and the local union people(UAW) make no more then there counterparts. I figured you would already know this since you are a highly skilled computer guy.
        When you work for a employer who has more then 100 people unions can be benificial. But you wouldnt know that. My point calling you Cuban Bobby with his binky is you dont seem very happy with the USA, then again you are from California where people their think they are above the rest of the world. My point is then move to Cuba, or China and spew your crap.
        And AGAIN you spew your bull shit about 1980 domestic cars, but have no problem paying to have a trans put in your scrap Hunda, then they cant even fix your marker lights that you where so afraid of doing. And you still praise them PATHETIC. I am also a highly skilled technician who can repair about anything put in front of me including my computer. Also:The U.S. Department of labor reports that:
        Wages of union members are, on average, 27 percent higher than those of workers who do not have union representation;
        92 percent of union workers have job-related health coverage, while only 68 percent of non-union workers do; and
        73 percent of union workers have a guaranteed, defined benefit pension, compared to 16 percent of non-union workers. The UAW also has played a vital role in passing such landmark legislation as Medicare and Medicaid, the Occupational Safety and Health Act, the Employee Retirement Act and the Family and Medical Leave Act. In Washington and state capitols, the UAW is fighting for better schools for kids, secure health care and pensions for retirees, clean air and water, tougher workplace health and safety standards, stronger worker's compensation and unemployment insurance laws and fairer taxes. So enjoy all of these things the UAW and Teamsters have done for you.


        Blogger Bobby T.   
        First off, I had to pay $20 during the repair of my transmission. The warranty paid for everything but the $20 I had to pay to rent the Aveo. Granted it was a bit of a rip off, but I can't complain about a warranty repair.

        Secondly, you seem to continue to criticize those who are not union members. The irony here is you keep attacking Honda & Toyota apparenlty because they are not union. You also made a statement prevoulsy saying that those who don't agree with unions are unskilled. Yet what I have said was that union members are skilled. Most of them could be just as successful without the union.

        Thirdly, many unions support environmental causes. If you weren't aware of this: at the time I bought my hybrid, Honda & Toyota where the only manufacturers who had Hybrids on the market. It was 3 years after I bought mine that other manufactuers began selling them. If Honda and Toyota are so bad, how is it they spearheaded the hybrid movement???

        You say that I should go to Cuba to say stuff agianst unions??? And that I'm anti-USA??? I mean, to say:

        "My point is then move to Cuba, or China and spew your crap."

        Obvously you know noting about being an American. I am allowed to spew any crap I want here. The fact that you think I should leave the country means you. sir, are Un-American. This statement CLEARLY illiustrates this fact. The fact that you are actively telling me I shouldn't be allowed to say my beliefs clearly illustrates the kind of society unions breed. One where individuals shouldn't have the right to express their beliefs.

        I do know unions are beneficial to its members in some ways. I would highly benefit from a union personally. I have several friends who are union members, one of my very best friends gets paid much more than I do for being a janitor. He staited he likes the union because it brings him more money. Aside from that he really doesn't care much about it.

        In the end, its all really about the money...

        But just because something is beneficial to some doesn't mean its inherently good.

        Unions may have helped pass a bunch of things, however if you disagree with those things (not everybody beleives medicare and medicade are good things) then your money has actively helped fund ideals that you disagree with. As I've heard one union member clearly explain, he told the union he didn't want his money going to fund political ideas he didn't agree with. They allowed him to pay a lower union fee, however they now actively list him as a non-member. So his only two choices were to fund unions political ideals as a member, or be rendered a non-member.

        Unions take away free choice from its members. Its fine and dandy if you are or become a Koolaid drinker, but if you try to be an individual, you are chastized and you loose your standing.

        You know, you've gone out of your way to come to MY website and attack me. You have clearly stated you feel I do not have the right to express my opinions in this country, yet I have continued to allow you to post your views on my own web space. And I've allowed you to do so hiding behind the name "Anonymous".

        The plain and simple facts is that most of the arguments you made against me seem to go against a lot of things. Every time I seem to bring up a valid point about unions, you of course choose to ignore that point and move on to something else. You state my entire site sucks, yet I constantly get feedback that this is not the case. You state I'm Un-Amearican or Anti-USA, yet I believe in free speech, free choice, and the power of individualism. And you criticize me for owning a car that needed a warranty repair, as if somehow Honda owners are the only owners on the planet that ever need major repairs...


        Anonymous Anonymous   
        you know what, what got me to your antiunion site was a simple sticker search, then I see you sell UNION SUCK shirts, so I decide to check out your site and lo and behold you hate unions, cops, blue collar people, live in California, drive a import, then try to compare your, "Well, I dropped off my Honda Insight today for a transmission replacement. I picked up a rental car -- a Chevy Aveo...(that gets similar milelage for 8k less) Apparently they were out of Plymouth Horizons..." to a 1984 car that took Chrysler out of Bankruptcy.(and could get 35mpg at the time) And oh hum de hum no big deal my trans failed. And again I could tell just from reading your site you have never been in a union, teamsters, Uaw,AFL-Cio, etc, if you where trust me I would be having a much differant discussion with you. Your the I dont have what they have boo-hoo, type of guy, I like to think of union people as industrial
        athletes.People are paid to negotiate contracts just like a football, Baseball, Hockey player does. Next "Ford" a American Company in Detroit Builds the Escape hybrid started in 2004,not a overpriced Honda or Toyota. I support USA, not Japan, the trickle down effect hasnt hit you yet but it will. And yes you can say watever you like you are correct, but so can I. I have been in a union,and thanks to them and the great benifits they negotiated with my employer, my wife that has terminal cancer, is getting remarkable care, compared to many people that just have medioker coverage and pay out the ass for co-pays.I guess they should have negotiated that in their pay package. So yes I am very grateful for what I have. Everyday.

        Steve.


        Blogger Bobby T.   
        First off, the "Plymouth Horizon" comment was an inside joke reference to a Lewis Black routine. If you have a problem with my reference to the Plymouth Horizon statement, go argue with him. In all honesty, I've never even seen a Plymouth Horizon...

        You've spouted off way more hate than I have here, and just about every thing you have done has attempted to attack me personally, as opposed to disagreeing with my views.

        You keep labeling me as if you know anything about me, yet you seem to know very little...

        Apparently its utterly rediculus for me to not like a specific model of car (I would list it in the same category that I would list the Honda Element), yet you seem to have a problem with an entire manufactuer and anyone who owns one of their vehicles. And the vehicle I chose to buy somehow indicates either I'm an idiot, a bad person, or both. Yet you probably are unaware of the fact that I owned a Chevy vehicle prior to buying the insight (if you count Geo's, I've actually owned 3 Chevy's).

        You tell me I should go to another country to spout my opinion, and proceed to tell me I'm anti-USA. Yet my money is allowing you to spout yours here, preserving freedom of speech (something not available in either Cuba or China).

        You kept bringing up my having to pay for a transmission as if I'm the only person who had to pay for a vehicle repair. Yet you seemed to fail short of thinking that almost every car has issues which is part of the reasons warranties are standard. So I didn't pay for the transmission, yet people pay for all kinds of repairs (including transmissions on domestic vehicles) every single day.

        I'm fully aware that unions cover almost every industry today. My problem isn't with union members its with the way the unions themselves (as a result of the higher ups) tend to operate. My point is that there is nothing unions do that couldn't be achieved without them (people are powerful). The only things unions do seem to solidly breed are views of entitlement and unexceptence, which you appear to repeatdly be illustrating here.

        I bought my vehicle in 2002, two years before the Ford Escape you listed came out in 2004. At that time the Insight had been available in the states for a couple years and the Prius had been available for one. The escape as a base MSRP value of $26380, around $9000 MORE than I paid for my insight (so I wasn't exactly going to save any money with your listed plan). So both your attempt to say I could have bought a Ford Escape and your attempt to say I would have saved money are two more points that fall far short of reality. Also, FTR: the Aveo is listed at 34 MPG highway, the insight is listed at over 55, so to say it gets symiler millage is a flat out lie. nearly 40% more MPG (on a 10gal tank, thats a difference of over 200 miles).


        You state that I dislike blue collar workers, yet I've never said one thing to even justify the idea of this claim (not all unions are for blue collared workers and not all blue collared workers are in unions, so the claim doesn't being to have any merit). My wife & I have a combined income of around $60,000 a year. It's not too bad, but I'm far from being very high up in the pay scale. I have a debilitating medical condition which is constantly rendering me more and more physically impaired every day. A condition which you (hopefully unintentionally) mocked with your "to afraid to change the parking lights" statement earlier. This condition also costs me quite a lot out of pocket after benefits to treat. As I pointed out before I would actually personally benefit greatly from being in a union.


        Every day I see pro union bumper stickers. I hear about political battles unions are fighting. When there are grocery store strikes I'm hassled for trying to buy groceries (by people who then expect me to return once the strike is over and they are happy), and on rare occasions I see people in the unions try and disagree with the union, only to be attacked and actively demeaned.

        Unions have the right to exist, and I would never take part in anything that tried to challenge this. But at the same time I will exercise my right to actively disagree with them. I would personally like to see people realize that they don't need a group with a political agenda to speak for them. In order to do this I believe its essential for people like me to take drastic measures to at the very least open peoples eyes to the negaivities that unions actually bring. As you pointed out, you found me by the items I placed in my store. Had I not created them, you would have actually never even known I existed.

        I have many close friends who are union members. I have two best friends. One of them is in a union and I'm actively glad for the financial support he gets from them. My other best friend's wife (whom he just married) and sister (who is also a good friend that actually introduced me to my wife) are both teachers.

        To me, the power of the unions to control what happens to its members, and the political agendas they constantly take part in greatly outweight the benefits.

        The fact that unions actively support politics as the heads of the unions see fit and the fact individual members have no real recourse or say over what the union does is much worse that the things an employer can impose on its employees.

        I mean, to help put in perspective what power unions have over members, I'll refer back to a radio show I heard during the last grocery store strike. They read, word for word, the proposed new contract which lead to the strike. Countless union members called in saying there was no way what they were reading was the actual contract (because the unions had told them a much different story). They repeatedly told people where they could obtain the actual contract to confirm what they were reading was real. The fact that union members were actually able to get copies of the actual contract was part of the reason there was such an increased number of vocal opponents within the union during the last strike. What was truly unfortunate was so many of the members chose not to read the contract at all. Many of those who saw union members question the strike decided the union must be right and chose to actively label those speaking out as traitors.

        Unfortunatly to put it simply is that for many union members, as far as they are concerned, the union is above reproach. This gives them overwhelming (nearly absolute) power, and as the saying goes, power corrupts...


        I bought the Honda insight because I thought it looked more unique than the prius (which looked more like a regular sedan at the time), and because I drive excessively. If I were to go with the Aveo (which wasn't available then), I would have spent more than $5000 more in gas over the past 5 years. If you take into account the lower cost of the Aveo (base model I assume), I wouldn't have saved the $8000 you listed earlier.

        But in all I think between the two of us, you are doing more to harm those not in unions than I am doing to unions themselves. I didn't buy a Honda because they were non-union. To be honest, I had no idea they were non-union until you posted here. I shop at union grocery stores multiple times a week. I made NO effort to avoid unions or their products what-so-ever.

        And FTR, when trying to determine the Aveo's MPG coincidentally (google "aveo mpg" without the quotes & look about 5 pages down) I found this guy had way more problems with his Aveo than I did with my Insight. I loved my Insight, yet he didn't love his Aveo. Why don't you go and tell him he is much better off having the laundry list of issues he had in 2 years than a single transmission replacement in 5 years. Personally I would take a single transmission replacement any day... Ooooo, it looks like he sold it after 2 years to buy a <gasp> Toyota!!!


        Anonymous Anonymous   
        Here read this->The vast majority of foreign companies operating in this country well they don't pay income tax. According to a new report by the Government Accountability Office, in fact nearly three-quarters of foreign corporations pay no federal income tax at all, at least during the period 1998 to 2005. Ok so Honda and Toyota= foriegn.
        If only are domestic companies could get this luxury. Also I can google Honda Insight and find many unhappy people too, but I will let you do this. Also I am not criticizing non-union people just someone that has a store selling anti-union crap,and someone that has not been a member.So yes you are criticizing blue collar people. Also just because a Union endorses or supports a canidate doesnt mean the members do. Their are MANY companies that endorse presidential canidates but that is ok. You->My problem isn't with union members its with the way the unions themselves (as a result of the higher ups) tend to operate. Well your t-shirts dont say that??
        See the people are the union and the people elect the higher ups to a certain stage. Lets see Enron non-union, higher ups,oops money all gone, Tyco, corrupt CEO, hmm where did the money go. Merril Lynch departing chief executive, Stan O'Neal, will walk away with $161.5 million in stock, options and retirement benefits. Merrill has reported losses of about $19.2 billion, which works out to about $52 million a day.while he was in charge and since he left. Yup your right the power of people, At the top! I could go on and on. And guess what this means JOB LOSSES, no union theirs the door. "Union" seperation packages, buyout, Heck Nissan is offering 126k for 6000 people to walk. As far as the South Korean Aveo, I am sure the mpg estimate are alittle off real world numbers. My loaded 2000 Sabel will get 32-34 if I drive like I am 80and has 200k on it. And it sure looks better. And has the original tranmission. I will take the milage differance for a more quality higher end more comfortable, bigger car.I bet your one of those people I pass all the time going like 50mph in the right lane. Me I am not that hard up for cash. But hey to each his own.


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