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    UTC - Kerry Did Worse Than This Ad...   
      Kerry Strikes Back Against Vietnam Criticism

      I find this so amazing. This ad questions Kerry on some issues, and Kerry is making a huge ruckus about it. However there exist this day tapes where Kerry claimed the men around him (many the same men taken part in this ad) willingly raped Vietnamese women, shot & killed civilians, razed villages, and a huge long list of much more...

      So why is it OK for Kerry to claim these people around him did these terrible things on the record, but now that a huge group got together and happen to be turning the tables (all of who may be telling the truth), it's a huge terrible thing that is Bush's fault??? I really don't understand why Kerry and literally a few others (who were actually there) are accusing a huge group of honorable veterans of lying (in not so many words), and then expect everybody to be certain this group of 60 are the dishonest ones (being indirectly paid/supported by Bush), compared to him and a literally small group of others (who were actually in Vietnam). It seems to me he's trying to pin this on Bush because he knows he can't tackle the people making the accusations against him. He's trying to let the media do that because he knows they can go to any lengths to get information to fall where they want it. Kerry's only course of action is to blame the president while seemingly ignoring the very people who are making these claims...

      These statements I made don't even take into account inhuman things Kerry himself directly stated he did on the record. Why were these things OK for Kerry to do without punishment while the people involved in Abu Ghraib are being court marshaled and sent to prison for acts remarkably petty compared to Kerry's own confession? Should we just ignore Kerry's on the record confessions???


    UTC - Kerry Quotes about Iraq   
      I decided to hilite some quotes made by Kerry in the Kerry on Iraq Documentary. The timeline makes more sense in the actual video (due to elements like Dems public opinion), but this does show a pretty clear transition starting on one side then, then ending up on the other...

      Kerry - 11/12/97: Where is the backbone of Russia? Where's the backbone of France? Where are they in expressing their condemnation on such clearly illegal activity? But in a sense, they're now climbing into a box...

      Kerry - 02/22/98: [Talking about the idea of going to war with Iraq] I am way ahead of the commander in chief, and probably way ahead of my colleagues, and certainly of much of the country. But I believe this. I believe that he has used these weapons before, he has invaded another country, he views himself as a modern day Nebakanezer... And I think we have to stand up to that.

      [Bush takes office 1/2000]

      Kerry - 12/11/01: I think we need to put the presser on [Saddam Hussein], no matter what the evidence is about September 11th.

      Kerry - 12/14/01: I think we clearly have to keep the pressure on terrorism globally. This doesn't end with Afghanistan... And it is absolutely vital that we continue, for instance, with Saddam Hussein.

      Kerry - 07/29/02: [Talking about diplomacy] Do we have to go though that process? The answer is yes. We're precisely doing that. That's what Colin Powell did today [at the UN].

      Kerry - 07/29/02: I agree completely with this Administration's goal of a regime change in Iraq...

      Kerry - 09/06/02: If Saddam Hussein is unwilling to bend to the international community's already existing order, then he will have invited enforcement. Even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the [UN] Security Council fails to act.

      Kerry - 09/15/02: I disagree with John McCain that it's the actually weapons of mass destruction he may use against us. It's what he may do in another invasion of Kuwait, or... he may even slide these weapons off to terrorist groups... to use them against the United States.

      Kerry - 09/17/02: But the president as I wrote... always reserves the right to act unilaterally to protect the interest of our country.

      Kerry - 05/03/03: ...I would have preferred if we had given diplomacy a greater opportunity. But I think it was the right decision to disarm Saddam Hussein... And I support the fact that [the president] did disarm him.

      Kerry - 08/31/03: ...and the fact is, in the resolution we passed, we did not empower the president to do a regime change...*

      Kerry - 10/12/03: ...but the president and his advisors did not do almost anything correctly in the walk up to the war. They rushed to war, they were intent on going to war...*

      Kerry - 09/14/03: [Asked ...will you then vote against the 87 billion?] I don't think any United States senator is going to abandon our troops, and recklessly leave Iraq... That's irresponsible...I don't think anyone in the congress is not gonna not give our troops ammunition, not give our troops the ability to be able to defend themselves...

      Kerry - 10/17/03: [On 87 billion appropriation for Iraq & Afghanistan] NAY*

      Kerry - 01/06/04: [Asked Are you one of the anti-war candidates?] Uh, I am..? Yeah.

      Kerry - 03/16/04: I actually did vote for the 87 billion*, before I voted against it*.

      Kerry - 07/11/04: [Asked do you think the war was a mistake?] I think I answered your question. I think the way we went to war was a mistake.


      I left out quite a bit, so I strongly encourage you to watch the whole thing!

      Think I'm makin' this stuff up or taking everything out of context? Then by all means, watch it and decide for yourself!!!

      Iraq_Medium.mov (45 MB)



    UTC - Bush Lie - Much Ado About Nothing?   
      I was looking for some info on the net and ran across this.

      There is an accusation that Bush knew about 9/11, and they site the following comment from one of his Speeches:

      "...And I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was obviously on, and I use to fly myself, and I said, 'There's one terrible pilot.' And I said, 'It must have been a horrible accident.'"


      Being the Democrats always seem to play up the misuse of words and grammatical mistakes in his speeches, did anybody ever stop to think that maybe his statement that he saw the first plane was a mistake? One thing he no doubtedly saw was the result of the first plane (before the second hit). If you replace the "...I saw an airplane hit the tower..." with "I saw the result of the first plane hitting the tower", this speech is then correct.

      If you think back, how clearly do you remember seeing the second plane hitting the tower? How many times did you see the video? I think nobody can honestly remember how many different times & angles we saw of the second plane hitting the tower on that day alone. It's an easy mistake to make, especially if you try to think about the specifics of what happened and when.

      I remember hearing about all that happened (I was at work), but for the life of me cannot specifically remember if both towers had been hit by the time I first heard about it, or if I heard about the first, then the second...

      The speech this was quoted from was most likely not fully rehearsed. 9/11 was chaotic, and I think its difficult for most of us to remember the exact order of events clearly. The level of emotional distress that many of us experienced make the details really hard to get clear. It's like the old attach: If 3 people witness a car accident, and you ask each of them individually what happened, you will get 3 different stories...

      If in fact Bush knew what was going to happen before the day began, I would expect information like this wouldn't "slip" out, as the site claims here...


    UTC - The F-Bomb & Short Term Memory   
      The other day I was watching TV & remember seeing a political speech of sorts, given by a child. Though I may very well be wrong, I *think* it was from the Democratic National Convention.

      At any rate the child made a comment about a recent epithet used by Vice President Cheney. Her statement was something like: "The Vice President used a word that if I would have used it, I would have gotten in trouble..."

      This was in reference to the VP's use of the 'F' word. Immediately after she said this, I remember the entire audience breaking into applause, in a sense agreeing with her.

      When this happened my jaw nearly hit the floor. The only thing I can think is that a short term memory comes with the territory of politics.

      If some of you aren't sure what I'm referring to, imagine a group of hopeful Democrat nominees at the end of 2003. Then picture John F'ing Kerry giving an interview to Rolling Stone magazine, in an attempt to entice young Americans to his side.

      During this interview Kerry purposefully used the 'F' word in anti-Bush tirade...

      So the question comes to mind of which is worse, if you can actually claim that one of the two is. I'm sure some will read this & say that the manner in which the term was used by Cheney was much worse than the context of Kerry's interview. However, keep in mind that he said this with every knowledge that millions of Americans, some of them very young, would read this all over the country...

      The VP on the other hand made a rash remark directed at an individual who was being a pain in the neck... His reasons for using it were similar to the reasons Teresa Heinz Kerry told a reporter to "shove it"...

      So when this all boils down, I don't really see how anybody could argue that the VP's words were any worse than anything Kerry or Heinz have done on the record...

      Something tells me if this child used the terms both Kerry & Heinz made, she wouldn't be in any less trouble...


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